Update 5/5/09: Never Summer Catalog images have been added to the very bottom of this post.
Never Summer walked away from the 2008 show ready to make and create their own version of the reverse camber that was very clearly gaining momentum. Behind the scene, Never Summer staff, team riders, product testers and shop kids were given boards to ride and try out. . . to determine if these reverse cambers were worth putting out and the response was very clear. Put in the reverse camber.
The two straight up park boards, Pandora-R and Circuit-R will be the only boards with a 1 year warranty, everything else follows Never Summer’s 3 year warranty.
Never Summer Rocker Camber
Never Summer Titan, Premier F1-R and SL-R
Never Summer Legacy-R, Evo-R, Revolver-R and Heritage-R
Never Summer Titan, SL-R, Legacy-R, Evo-R
Never Summer Titan, Premier F1-R, SL-R, Legacy-R, Evo-R, Revolver-R, Heritage-R, Lotus-R
Never Summer Premier F1-R, SL-R, Circuit-R, Pandora-R, Infinity-R, Lotus-R (both topsheets) and Heritage-R
Never Summer Heritage-R, Premier F1-R, SL-R and Circuit-R
I’ve only been riding the Lotus-R which I have been very happy with, as a freerider it’s great to have a board that can handle the whole mountain. I’ll be making my way through the NS line-up with the introduction of reverse camber to other models to check out how they ride.
Anonymous
February 6, 2009 at 2:59 pmHello Shay,
Thanks for all the info you have been posting in regards to SIA. I just saw this on another blog:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T_6PyI42s6o/SYxwNmjc75I/AAAAAAAAAsI/VSID4ldokgI/s1600-h/C2_win_pressrelease-thumb.jpg
What do you think about that? Kind of wack ripping Never Summer’s tech.
Anonymous
February 6, 2009 at 3:03 pmHey Shay. Do you have something about the Summit? Thanks
Anonymous
February 6, 2009 at 5:24 pmNow I understand when you said the Circuit doesn’t look like a NS board! I would take off those boards (Circuit+Pandora) to keep NS clean image of strong and durable board with 3 year warranty.
I’ve not tried the R/C yet, but it look awesome. If it provides a better edge hold, why does the Titan is still normal cambered?
And yeah, Lib/Gnu sucks. Never Summer (and Lib) didn’t invented rocker. But rocker-camber is directly from NS factory…
optionrider
February 6, 2009 at 5:37 pmIt’s kind of weird that the Legacy-R, SL-R, Evo-R and Revolver-R all have very similar graphics. They could have been more creative. They should go back to the style of last year’s Heritage with the polar bear.
Crispy
February 6, 2009 at 8:44 pmI think you labeled the SL-R as the Legacy-R in the last two pics. Caption police! LOL
Thanks as always for the news on NS.
Anonymous
February 6, 2009 at 10:27 pmI love snowboarding. I love being in the mountains, and out in nature, but maybe its just me, but this whole who did what first is bullshit. There are so many angles that we can debate about who invented what, and at the end of the day we would have gotten nowhere. I will admit that I like Lib boards. I have nothing against N.S. I have never even ridden one, but would like to. They seem to make a solid board, and I admire that their keepin it in the U.S. I just think that it is so great that companies are trying to make a funner board for the consumer to ride, but we could go way back to George Washington, and I bet you his ax that chopped down the fuckin cherry tree was reverse camber, so maybe we should be thankin him. What if K2,Lib, or whoever was the original company that did never came out with Reverse Camber? Would N.S. have ever came out with there R.C. concept? Maybe or maybe not. What if T.N. never came out whit the toecap? Would the rest of the companies be sportin the toecap? The list goes on of who came out with it first. I understand that we all are very loyal to our snowbaord companies that we represent. We as non-sponsors probably represent our board brands better than the some pros do, but I am just so sick and fuckin tired of who invented what and when. That brings me to Shayboarder. I think that is so badass that we have someone that is nonbias about products and says it how it is (even though I know she loves N.S. 🙂 I guess my point is that I really dont care who came out with what, I want to know about the product, so it can help me determine where I should spend my hard earned money. Thanks Shay, and thank you George Bush for inventing stupidity. Aaron
Shayboarder
February 6, 2009 at 10:27 pmI had seen that get SIA award get announced. It’s a bummer because I think a lot of companies deserve to be credited for it…not just Never Summer.
Summit is not in the catalog for 09-10.
Thanks Crispy, i’ll fix that.
Shayboarder
February 6, 2009 at 11:16 pmTouche Anonymous.
You made me laugh hard about the George Washington comment, seriously though. I’m totally with you on the inventing part…it seems like it’s a lot of talk this year, more so than last year. I don’t care who did it first, I care about how it rides and if they did it good enough for me to enjoy the ride.
Thanks I appreciate the words. I try to be as unbiased as I can and honest about what I ride, dislike and like. I love some NS boards but I ride and own other brands as well.
Good to hear your input.
Anonymous
February 6, 2009 at 11:44 pmHi Shay
You continue to rule. I just got an email from Melissa at NS two days ago because I was asking about the 09/10 Summit:
“This next
season we have incorporated the new R.C. Technology into all of our boards
except for the Summit. The reason is because it is such a specific board
that the engineering involved in it is already honed to be in the powder
only and so it is set up that way. If you look into the Premier F1 or the
Titan those boards are also meant to be big mountain, back country powder
day boards that will have the R.C. Tech in the 09-10 season.”
So I hate to say this but either she’s wrong and its the Titan, or someone on the NS floor at SIA might have been mistaken and its the Summit as the only one without RC next year. Just wanted to throw that out there to see if you know which is correct.
Anonymous
February 6, 2009 at 11:47 pmPS:
Oh, I also told her that I got my NS board because of your reviews and that she should send you more free stuff. Hope they keep hooking you up 🙂
Shayboarder
February 7, 2009 at 12:05 amThanks for throwing it out there, the Summit isn’t in the catalog and I didn’t see it at SIA. I didn’t ask either but it makes sense to take out the pow board when the reverse cambers do fine in pow. The Titan should be the only one without RC, I talked to Tracey on the phone about that and remembered that.
I’ll double check for you to make sure though. Thanks for the good words to NS about me, they treat me great as a tester, easy to love the boards and the people behind it.
Anonymous
February 7, 2009 at 1:07 amHi Shay,
Do you know if the technology has evolved at all from this year’s Never Summer recurve to next years? In other words, if I pick up an SL R this year, is it essentially the same board they’ll be putting out next year? Thanks a bunch, keep up the great work!
Anonymous
February 7, 2009 at 10:31 amI don’t care who did it first either. But it’s just so gay that Lib deserve the awards for the exact same tech because it’s a bigger company than NS. Sounds like marketing corruption to me.
Anonymous
February 8, 2009 at 4:14 pmCould I hope the revolver comes in 154 or 155 next year? Any body know? 153 and 156 just arent for me.
Shayboarder
February 8, 2009 at 4:29 pmRevolver comes in a 153, 156, 159, 161, 164 for next season.
I had heard there were some changes but that was months ago…I’ll find out at the on-snow this week for a guaranteed answer. I had heard my infinity was different than this years but I could be wrong.
Anonymous
February 10, 2009 at 5:29 pmHey, do you know what sizes that the SL-R come in?
Thanks, appreciate your help.
Shayboarder
February 16, 2009 at 12:59 pmYep the SL-R comes in 151, 155, 158, 161, 164.
banzaimf
February 17, 2009 at 1:51 amGot a chance at a 159 Premier rocker this past weekend. Conditions were hardpack and a thin coat of groomered, but the board inspired me to leave the old ways behind (super stiff boards). The ride was everything I expect from a Premier insofar as dampening and stiffness, with a super easy time carving in the hardpack.
The only issue I had with it is related to the way I hit moguls. Not used to the board pivoting in the middle.
Shayboarder
February 17, 2009 at 9:43 pmNice good to hear your thoughts on riding one already!
Yeah I avoid moguls like the plague.
Cee
February 18, 2009 at 11:43 pmDoes anyone remember the birth mother of NS and Unity ?
Summit Snowboards…
Anonymous
February 28, 2009 at 10:02 pmI’m tired of reading these people bitching about Mervin “ripping off” neversummer. I’d rather not continue these arguments because I’m sick of seeing them all over the web, but some people may not know better and deserve to know the truth. Mervin (lib tech, gnu, roxy) took an old concept (reverse camber) and redesigned it to not only work (for the first time) but make it work better than traditional camber. Neversummer saw the buzz and saw how well that particular design worked (as apposed to full nose-tail reverse camber) and ripped it off. They made a tweak to the design to differenciate (or maybe they really figured it worked better) by putting a bit of camber at the tips. Unfortunately for them, Mervin had already pioneered that design as well, as they were currently using it on their skiis (NAS). Neversummer even stole Mervins marketing term for that design (recurve). Mervin apparently sent a cease and desist which is why NS changed their marketing terms. Mervin using recurve on their boards next year is a simple extension of their ski design to their snowboards. The BIG innovation was using reverse camber between the feet only, which no one had done before, and Mervin did it first and NS ripped it off. Plain and simple.
khoa
March 3, 2009 at 2:06 pmis there going to be neon green p-tex on the slr?
Anonymous
March 5, 2009 at 5:24 pmHey Shay, I was incorrect in the email to “Anonymous” for listing the Titan as a rockered Freeride powder board since this year it is the only non-rockered board offered in our line up. However, the Summit is still a board that we will be producing (non-rockered) but by special order only. That’s why the Summit was not with us at SIA, nor will it be in the catalogue or online this year.
Thanks!-
Mel
Anonymous
March 7, 2009 at 9:37 pm—
Hello Shay I have one quick question to ask you…could you tell me what the base (bottom) color of the Evo and the SL-R are? Thank you!
Anonymous
March 19, 2009 at 2:19 pmDo you know what sizes the Lotus will come in for 2009/2010?
Shayboarder
March 19, 2009 at 7:51 pmStill haven’t gotten the final word on the base graphics, as soon as I know I’ll let you guys know.
The lotus comes in 146, 149, 151, 154, 157cm
truthseeker
March 30, 2009 at 11:20 pmHi Shay, read alot of misinformation here from a lot of the posters. Neither Never Summer or lib Tech invented reverse camber or rocker. Reverse camber boards were available years ago k2 did one amongst others. But one company did use rocker between the feet and two cambers -Patented it in 1998 companies called INCA they did it first and both Never Summer and Mervin are rippin them off and they should pay a license or pay the price …..
Drea
April 6, 2009 at 8:50 amHi Shay!
I read your reviews of last years (08/09) Lotus and Infinity. I demo’d the Infinity but not the Lotus so I’m still torn. I ride all over(except backcountry) and plan to start venturing into some park. I like the graphics on the Lotus way better than Infinity(especially over the 09/10 model). Why do girl boards have to be girly! I want the never summer bird on my board darn it!
Anyway, do you know if they took your suggestion to make the Lotus with a centered stance? My old board (K2) was stolen this year and it was centered stance. Now I am borrowing a board that is longer and set back, it’s ok but not as easy in the trees.
Thanks for keeping us informed!
Drea
Shayboarder
April 6, 2009 at 5:14 pmTruthseeker. Each company has their own patent pending so it’ll be interesting to see which ones are granted and which ones interfere with others.
Shayboarder
April 6, 2009 at 5:17 pmDrea,
If you can try the lotus, that will help with the decision a lot. I ride my lotus in the mini park on rails and in the halfpipe, still butterable and pressable so mine is really my do everything board.
I hear you on the girly graphics…companies rarely cross the lines to make girls boards badass versus pretty.
No changes on the stance, I have my bindings at the first holes to make it better for me.
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amie
February 27, 2012 at 6:43 pmI am looking for the never summer lotus 2010 board womens, do you know where i can still find one ?
Shay
February 29, 2012 at 6:40 pmAmie, good luck! I’d keep checking ebay and google to see if one pops up. Never Summer’s aren’t oversold so each year the boards sell out and are harder to find previous years.